Saturday, February 24, 2007

The Hillary Clinton Horror Show

15 comments:

Flag Gazer said...

Jennifer~
I always enjoy your comments at Mike's America and wanted to tell you that your last comment about being a conservative liberated woman was excellent. As you have, most of my life has been working in "non-traditional" jobs - I worked hard for the knowledge and the respect, too.
Thank you.

The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

flag gazer is another incredible person, in her own right.

I too echo the praise and think Hillary isn't worthy enough to even hold your exercise bra.

Thanks for adding my blog as one of the places you occasionally visit.

J_G said...

Thanks Flag Gazer and Wordsmith, I've been at odds with libs for a long time. I just don't believe government is the solution to the problems we face in this country. There is a need for some oversight that's a given. That is why I made Theodore Roosevelt one of my picks for top president. TR went head to head with people that wanted to and had the means to rob and pilage the country to make it their fifedom (enemies foreign and domestic) but he also understood the constitutional limitations of the government.

This Hillary Clinton is one scary person to me. I don't know if any of you saw or knew the complete details of her government takeover of the healthcare system. It was a bureaucrat's dream or our nightmare.

If you have any question about how things would look with her and her husband as president again and a democrat congress just do some research into the European Union and see the bureaucratic nightmare they have made out of Europe. They have become a secular socialist state with no moral compass similar to that of the former enemy,the Soviets. They aren't all the way there yet but they are working hard at it.

Marie's Two Cents said...

Ok that picture is just scary!

J_G said...

Marie, I took down the background sound of the " Wicked witch of the West" and the "Pyscho" background sound so you may have missed it. It was supposed to work so that when my page opened up you would see the picture of the WWW and then hear the background voice. Then I put up the algore you tube post and messed the timing up.

Thanks Mike for your help with inserting the sounds. I have found a free server that will upload the file and it will host sounds so that you don't link directly to someone elses site. The server is Called Fileden it pretty easy to use ands they let you use 500mb free. That's good enough for my misguided purposes ;-)

Mrs. Green said...

"...the European Union and see the bureaucratic nightmare they have made out of Europe. They have become a secular socialist state with no moral compass similar to that of the former enemy,the Soviets."

That's a pretty general statement, JG. You believe the Europeans have no moral compass? On what do you base that? Do they have more crime and scandals (like the Foley scandal and the Abramoff scandal) than we do?

Actually, their crime rates as a percentage of their population are lower than in the US. And their people have healthcare and do not have millions of chilren, like we do, uninsured.

In my opinion, it's immoral for a country to take care of the rich and leave the poor to fend for themselves. There's no moral compass there.

And neither is it morally good for a country to treat it's wounded soldiers so shabbily that a newspaper has to investigate and expose that morally corrupt shame.

I think we need to look at the log in our eyes before we cast aspersions on Europe.

patterns of ink said...

Hi, J_G,
I tried to leave a comment after that very moving video about soldiers coming home. For some reason that day I couldn't.
One of my former students who served and won the purple heart came home this week.
For an interesting story about Hillery's deepest fear go here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17313110/site/newsweek/

J_G said...

The Europeans have sold off their churches and become a secular state. The morality in Europe has become nothing more than Government handout for food, jobs and health care which by the way is no where near as good or comprehensive as American healthcare. There is not a single person that does not agree that if we didn't have to pay for 12 million illegal aliens infiltrating and stealing from the taxpaying citizens by using the emergency rooms of our hospitals for doctors offices that there would be more than enough resources to go around for every real citizen child.

You make an error Mrs. Green; the top 10 percent of all wage earners pay 50 percent of the taxes. 50 percent of the people in the US pay no taxes at all. That's taking care of the rich? Answer me this Mrs. Green, if you needed a job and went looking for one who do you think would be able to hire you, a rich person or poor one? Just thought I'd ask. If we make it too hard for people to invest their money for a decent return who do you think will hire people, the government, they are already the largest employer in the country and it soon to be like that of the huge bureaucracies that were first created in European countries because they chased all the business out with their regulations and taxes. Now the ruling elite over in Europe is even smaller and richer than their counterparts in the US. It has gone back to the days of feudalism in Europe.

Not all of the facilities that we have treat our wounded soldiers badly. It has been a case of very poor management and oversight in one location. I would also ask why it is that none of the democrats in congress came forward to say or do anything about it either. Congress also has a duty to use their oversight authority to find these problems and point them out so they can be remedied? The only real authority they do have they mismanaged and did nothing to correct the problem. Did they purposely let the mismanagement go on so they could use it to embarrass the President at the expense of the health and care of the soldiers? Once defense Secretary Gates found this to be a problem did try to sweep it under the rug. No, Gates said it’s time to fix the problem and never let such a thing happen again and let congress know they do have a responsibility of oversight and reporting problems when they are known. Apparently having their faces on the camera whining about every thing the president does wrong every single minute of the day is more important to them because from all reports I’ve been hearing this problem has existed since 2005. If soldiers were being treated badly then those responsible must be held accountable. Send them up to my place and I’ll give them lesson on respect if that’s what is needed.

I just got home from a night playing in the ice and snow with electric trains. This is the best I can do off the top of my head Mrs. Green. Have nice day

J_G said...

Patterns, Blogger does some things I cannot explain I just tried to post a comment in answer to Mrs. Green and it ate the comment. Luckily I kept in on my computer's clipboard so I could repost it.
Anyway, I check it out later today after I get some sleep. I'm worn out. Thanks for your comment too!

Mrs. Green said...

The Europeans have sold off their churches and become a secular state.--JG

Should the Europeans conform to your idea of how to be religious? How does attendance in church, temple or mosque guarantee one’s morality?

The morality in Europe has become nothing more than Government handout for food, jobs and health care which by the way is no where near as good or comprehensive as American healthcare.--JG

That’s not morality, that’s an economic system. And if that’s what people in individual countries want and their governments give them, why does that bother you? You think your country does right by you, why sneer at what works for the Europeans? And you statement on American healthcare is wrong.

There is not a single person that does not agree that if we didn't have to pay for 12 million illegal aliens infiltrating and stealing from the taxpaying citizens by using the emergency rooms of our hospitals for doctors offices that there would be more than enough resources to go around for every real citizen child.--JG

If that’s true, why hasn’t the Bush administration done something about it? They’ve had 6 years and control of all branches of government up until January of 2007 to do something. It seems to me you’re rightly blaming the incompetence of the Bush administration and its inability to right what you consider these injustices.


You make an error Mrs. Green; the top 10 percent of all wage earners pay 50 percent of the taxes. 50 percent of the people in the US pay no taxes at all.--JG

That figure is wrong. I just checked it on a conservative tax website. No way does 50% of our population NOT pay taxes. However, the federal income tax is only one of several taxes Americans pay. Other taxes, like excise taxes, sales taxes, and especially the payroll tax (a.k.a. FICA), are regressive — that is, the poor pay them at a higher rate relative to their income than do the non-poor. Just because somebody does not pay any federal income tax does not mean that they are part of a “non-taxpaying class,” or even that they pay a smaller percentage of their income in taxes than someone who does pay federal income tax.

Congress also has a duty to use their oversight authority to find these problems and point them out so they can be remedied? The only real authority they do have they mismanaged and did nothing to correct the problem. Did they purposely let the mismanagement go on so they could use it to embarrass the President at the expense of the health and care of the soldiers?--JG

Um, if I remember correctly, Congress was controlled by the Republican Party for the last 6 years. The Democrats had absolutely NO POWER to bring oversight to that shameful condition at Walter Reed. The responsibility rests with this administration and its lack of concern for the welfare of our returning wounded soldiers. It is a disgrace, and you would be screaming from the top of the Washington Monument for the heads of all Democrats if this had happened under a Democratic administration. The hypocrisy is depressing. Yeah. Good for Defense Secretary, but did he really have a choice?

J_G said...

Um, if I remember correctly, Congress was controlled by the Republican Party for the last 6 years. The Democrats had absolutely NO POWER to bring oversight...

Um, it did not stop democrats from voicing their objections on anything else that the Bush adminstration did like not enough armored vehicles and body armor. Why didn't they say something about this treament center on the grounds of Walter Reed if they were so concerned with the welfare of the troops. If your looking for me to defend the actions of the department of defense under Donald Rumsfeld don't expect to see that here. I was openly critical of his leadership for many years and explained all my reasons why both here and on many military blogs before it became a popular rant of the left for attention to their desperate and cynical democrat congressional leadership.

It is immoral and unhealthy that the government take over of our health care system becomes like that in Europe and other countries because now it becomes the job of government bureacrats to determine who gets treatment and when. We already know how easy it is for governments and their workers to become very corrupt when payouts and bribes to government workers become the norm in order to reap benefits for the few.

How can we expect the government to take care of regular citizens on a day to day basis because as you have already pointed out and we already see that even our soldiers that defend are right to to talk about the subject, are supposed to be taken care of under a government healthcare plan. They were mistreated and it is only getting fixed when it becomes a political football. No thanks, I'll stick with private care thank you.


Should the Europeans conform to your idea of how to be religious? How does attendance in church, temple or mosque guarantee one’s morality?

That answers itself. Yes, if they want to continue to be prosperous. Belonging to a church and following the teachings of Christ does guarantee one's morality provided you do follow the teachings.

There is one thing that is for certain though, if you believe in nothing you will fall for anything. Europeans have abandoned Christian principles and teachings for secularism. Their societies will soon collapse because there are no moral underpinnings. Now the muslim is moving their system into place. Mosques no longer qualify, they are part of the problem. I'm sure the Europeans will do just fine with that don't you think? It seems to be working so well now.

We as a nation are over taxed. The bottom 50 percent of taxpayers do not pay taxes federal income taxes, let me make that perfectly clear because they take the biggest bite to feed the entitlement system. 50 percent of the people pay no FEDERAL INCOME TAXES which takes the biggest bite. Illegal aliens pay none that make any difference. They live in a growing unground economy and even if they were to become REAL citizens they would still be a burden because now we would have to pay for their social security and medicare and they still would pay little or nothing into these systems. Those that earn and become productive are penalized by a system of taxation that would make Karl Marx proud.

I blame the citizens for electing politicians that promise the voters that they will recieve this benefit and that benefit if they elect that person while the whole time they don't realize they would be much better off purchasing goods and sewrvice from the private sector cutting out the politician and the expensive government workers that deliver services. Why is it that government wortkers have the best benefits anyway? How come federal employees that adminster social security do not pay in to the system and one that provisdes them with everything they need many times over?

That's all for those questions that can be answered with use of some common sense today. Stop back tomorrow Mrs. Green for another lesson in common sense, I think you're smart enough to catch on to it unlike many of the other liberals I've known over the years.

J_G said...

Patterns,
I hope your former student that has earned the Purple Heart is doing OK. Tell him Thank You for his service from me.

I read the article and I agree that is going to be a problem for Clinton. Clinton also has negatives that are 45-48 percent and that completely keeps her from winning a general election and democrats know this. I think they are searching for someone to push her to the side. but that is not going to be so easy because they still have an iron grip on the democrat party. You have to wonder why though. They were responsible for losing congress to conservatives they bungled the government take over of the healthcare system. They embarrassed they country and led the way to 9/11 by their bungling of their foreign policy by not taking out Bin laden with the many opportunities they had.

Mrs. Green said...

It is immoral and unhealthy that the government take over of our health care system becomes like that in Europe and other countries because now it becomes the job of government bureacrats to determine who gets treatment and when. We already know how easy it is for governments and their workers to become very corrupt when payouts and bribes to government workers become the norm in order to reap benefits for the few.

Immoral and unhealthy? My relatives in Italy, and my friends of 30 years in France would disagree. My daughter lived in Canada. They've all had excellent health care and received it when it was needed.

As for you charge of corrupt government--think about what happened to Enron, and the many scandals attached to private HMOs. Private corporations cheat and steal. There's no guarantee that mismanagement will not occur in the private sector.


There is one thing that is for certain though, if you believe in nothing you will fall for anything.

Really? Tell that to Steven Weinberg, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Helen Taylor, Kurt Vonnegut, and, if you could raise the dead, Albert Einstein, Benjamin Franklin, Richard Feynman, Alan Duggan, Carl Sagan, Helen Keller, Thomas Paine, Christopher Marlow, David Hume, Robert Frost, Vincent Van Gogh, Madame Curie. Just to name a few.

All brilliant minds who accomplished much in their life times.



Europeans have abandoned Christian principles and teachings for secularism. Their societies will soon collapse because there are no moral underpinnings.

Japan is not a Christian nation. The main religion is Shintoism, which is a form of ancestor worship--not the worship of a god's son. That society is hardly collapsing or anymore corrupt than our Christian nation.

Mexico is a strongly Catholic/Christian nation. Let's talk about the corruption there.

The Muslims I personally know are good people. I don't see a problem with them, as a religious group, here in this country.

Europe's problem, I think, stems from that old bugaboo, discrimination, and the fact that a lot of the European Muslims are in the lower economic classes because of the discrimination.

J_G said...

The key word you seemed to have overlooked Mrs. Green is "follow" the teachings, not just say you believe and then go about your same old business of being corrupt.

I once did a post on Fredrich Nietzche. The man himself ahorred the thought of there being a God at all. That does not discount the fact that he was right in some of his observations about humans. I kind of liken his behavior to a stopped clock; a stopped clock is extremely accurate twice a day and only for a very short period of time. Some people may do a little better than that and some less. Just because you are intelligent that does not make you a moral person or even a good person. It just means your brain has developed to be more astute in your observations than others.

I hold those people in a special place wondering what it was they missed in their observations that excluded God. You can count ol' Benny Franklin out of group Mrs. Green. Benny had problems with church leaders but he was a firm believer in God. Those people you have mentioned I cannot judge because that is beyond me that is not my place only God can know their hearts but if they say they they were atheists well, that too bad. They got some splainin to do Lucy.

Your relatives must be the exception Mrs, Green. the average citizens in Europe, Canada and England must get in line to to be served no matter the severity of the illness. Sounds pretty good when you need a couple of stitches from a cut but not so good if you're having a heart attack or stroke. There are no guarantees any where in life except taxes and death Mrs. Green.

With a private system chances of surving a major medical calamity are much better. In England now they are putting old people at the back of the list because they look at it as a waste to put so much time and money in someone that is old. I watched that on TLC one night and was glad I live here.

You know Mrs. Green I don't believe for one second that everyone is going to convert to Christianity because I say it's a good thing to do. I can tolerate other religions if they decide to live peacefully with others. The Japanese have had their problems, I'm sure the Chinese aren't too pleased to have them as neighbors but they aren't fighting right now. They do have some relgious beliefs but they are not an atheist state like the failed Soviets Union. That's more to what I refer the Europeans becoming like, Soviet atheism. Shintoism in itself isn't a violent religion.

The muslims are a completely different story though. The don't seem to be able to get along with any of their neighbors or those of differing sects. I prefer that they not start any colonies here in the US, I wish they would go back home and take what they have learned and earned with them and maybe they can teach their cousins to stop blowing each other up every day.

I think they will start that behavior over here. Over in Europe it must be like waiting for the other shoe to drop all of the time with muslims that refuse to assimilate just waiting to explode into a war with the Euopeans.

The Europeans will call on us again to come to their rescue and I will stand over here saluting them the single finger salute when it does happen.

mariestwocents said...

I missed the darn music.