Monday, September 24, 2007

Free Speech or Free Advertising?

Next Stop! Columbia University! This bus will continue on it's irratic and irrational course

This morning the President of Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will be giving a speech to the students and alumni at Columbia University in New York. This is to me, a slap in the face of Americans everywhere. This man that is the President of Iran presides over a terrorist sponsoring state and hosts parades through the streets of his capitol city Tehran chanting the standard “death to America, death to America”. Now President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has come to America to give a speech to the United Nations General Assembly. The United States is bound by treaty to let the Iranian President make his speech at that unremarkable body of bureaucrats.

President Ahmadinejad also wanted to visit the site where the World trade Towers once stood and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who has never been noted for much common sense or backbone said he would provide a Police escort for President Ahmadinejad to go to that site. A firestorm of criticism erupted over that poorly thought out idea and the mayor cancelled his offer to President Ahmadinejad and refused to give him permission to visit the site. That a boy, Mayor Bloomberg, that’s the true tradition of the wishy-washy, say anything to get elected politician we’ve all come to despise.

My take on all of this is; President Ahmadinejad has the right by treaty to come to the United States to address the United Nations General Assembly there is nothing short of creating an international incident that can stop him from attending this function.

It is my opinion and the opinion of many others that do exhibit some common sense that it is a very dim-witted idea to let President Ahmadinejad give a speech at Columbia University. We already know that the Iranian President believes the United States is the “Great Satan’ and thinks we are evil defilers of Islam. We already know that the Iranian President wishes “Death to American” and has made it a slogan for Iranian license plates and dinnerware. Inviting Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to speak before Columbia University is a blatant disregard of American sensibilities and decency. It is also a hefty contribution by providing free advertising for the radical Islamist terrorism that Ahmadinejad espouses.

Free speech is a right that is guaranteed to the citizens of the United States of America by US Constitution. Those freedoms do not extend to tyrants from other nations that wish to destroy us and our freedoms. Even the New York Times didn’t give the American citizen traitors and tyrants at Move on dot org free advertising in their “We hate General Petraeus” ad they ran just days ago.

The Sick Rose

O Rose, thou art sick!
The invisible worm
That flies in the night,
In the howling storm,
Has found out thy bed
Of crimson joy,
And his dark secret love
Does thy life destroy.

William Blake


SusieQ said...

The only good that could possibly come from his speaking at Columbia is if, during the questions from the audience part, he is exposed for being the monster that he is.

J_G said...

Susie they aren't going to let them ask tough questions. Even if they do manage to get a tough one in like "were you on of the hostage takers back in 1979?" He will give one of his long and convoluted answers that make no sense.

This is a farce and a show for him and he makes a mockery out the so-called intellectuals who are willing dupes for his purposes.

What a sham!!!!!!

SusieQ said...

Kudos to the President of Columbia University for his scathing opening statements to the Iranian runt.

Well, wouldn't you know that people like Chris Matthews are appalled and have nothing but scorn for the Prez of Columbia U. How dare he say all those nasty things to Ahmadinejad who only wants to wipe Israel off the map, only thinks the Holocaust never happened and that we need to investigate it further, and who is only killing our solders in Iraq and only gets his people to chant "Death to America. Poor mistreated thing.

The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

I think the problem with the whole "isn't our country great/freedom of speech/let him expose himself for who he is" line of reasoning, is that back in the Middle East, and in Iran in particular, they are going to cherry-pick/edit what Boellinger said, and what Ahm on a jihad said, for propaganda purposes. We already know he's a monster; and those in the free world who don't understand that, wouldn't have learned anything new about it, from this exchange. What we have given him, is footage that will get edited and spun into propaganda fodder for those back in Iran.

We've been used.

J_G said...

Bollinger did appear to be tough on nutjob but like Susie said he took a lot of heat from the left for doing so. Bollinger had to appear tough because he backed himself into a corner by inviting nutjob in the first place and was taking a real beating from the alumni. One of the things that got me was Bollinger complaining about Iran waging a proxy war on our troops but the troops aren't allowed to come onto Columbia's campus with the ban on ROTC. A pretty transparent act by Bollinger if you ask me. If Bollinger made nutjob look bad, then that's a good thing even if he backed into critizing a modern day Tomás de Torquemada

This did not turn out like he planned. This was supposed to be a hate America first event but thanks to many young conservatives that was thwarted and large numbers of them turned to protest nutjob. Many of students gave nutjob a couple of standing O's because most of them have been corralled into the Bush derangement syndrome by the professors at that Columbia.

Like you said Word the parts where nutjob looked bad the Iranians will edit out but they will certainly leave the standing O's in from the hate Bush crowd.

Mike's America said...

I'm sure the only reason Bollinger gave the speech is did is because of the firestorm of criticism. It says a lot when people start tearing up their diplomas and stop sending in the checks.

I would never have allowed that monster Amadjihad to speak. But Bollinger's speech can now be shoved down the throat of every leftie who insists there is nothing wrong with Iran.

I'm going to look for a text of it and post it for future reference.

The lefties will have a hard time arguing with Bollinger who said many of the same things the rest of us have been saying for years.

J_G said...

Yeah Mike, I don't think Bollinger planned for things to happen the way they did. Now he's going to have defend his position or do a Clinton shuffle. Let's see what happens when the moveon crowd starts attacking him.

Marie's Two Cents said...

I dont understand why we keep letting him back into the Country repeatedly knowing he is a terrorist!

SusieQ said...

Mike, you can find the full text of Bollinger's remarks at

Before we heard Bollinger's opening statement to Ahmadinejad, my husband and I decided that it was a good thing to have him come to Columbia University where he could be confronted and asked hard questions. That was what we were hoping would take place, and it did with Bollinger.

We found Bollinger's questions and comments to be wonderfully bold, blunt, geniune and the unvarnished truth. His confrontational approach was so refreshing to us. It is long past the time to confront the Ahmadinejads of the world and hold them accountable for their words and actions in settings like this one.

The fact that Ahmadinejad could not defend himself against these indictments, even though he had the opportunity, and that these indictments came from one of the Left's own says volumes.

The reaction of the Left to Bollinger's statements says volumes too. Not all, but many of them, especially people like Chris Matthews who cater to an audience that leans to the left, were quick to distance themselves from Bollinger by ridiculing him for being so outspoken and "un-academic" as if being academic with a man like Ahmadinejad is more important than being forthright and truthful. I see that as nothing more than Matthews for instance saying what he thinks his audience wants to hear from him about Bollinger's remarks so that he can please his audience and preserve his ratings. It is so sickening to watch Matthews at work.

Some people are accusing Bollinger of having had ulterior motives for being so outspoken with Ahmadinejad, such as he wanted to insure the alumni keep sending Columbia their money. He denies that he had ulterior motives like that. Call me naive if you want, but I believe him.

J_G said...

Susie, it will only be a short while before we see if what Bollinger said about Ahmadinejad is really what he believes. He will come under whithering fire from the left wing loons and if truly meant what he said (which was as you say refreshing)he will stick to guns. If he starts doing the Clinton shuffle it will only serve to reinforce what the critics have said about his whole stance.

I'm not so sure he will stick his position once they start protesting in front of his office and threaten his family as is the normal course of action for this current crop of student and faculty anarchists . Only time will tell.

patterns of ink said...

I listened to it, and Bollinger seemed to speak with conviction, but it is a strange world in which the freedoms he would deny his own people and take away from us if he could are his "ticket" to come and speak on an even playing field. My fear is that it makes him look more legitimate in the eyes of those who hate us.

DirkStar said...

Long live!

Truth is stronger and longer lasting than mindless flag waving...

Wow, Bill O'Reilly is where you get your news? You must be a born again Christian...

The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

To dirkstar: Truth is stronger and longer lasting than mindless flag burning...


As I said earlier, the thing is, whatever Bollinger said and whatever Ahmadenijad said, will be edited for propaganda back home. It's already begun.

It doesn't matter one iota how "hard-hitting" the questions could have been. Ahmadenijad can only come out on top, the moment we played this game.

Nothing was proven. But something was gained, by the Iranian government.

J_G said...

dikstart, I had this long comment to point out where you have gone wrong but it appears you have done that which I could have never done.

J_G said...

Susie, I wish we could get more people on the same thought level as you and become more optimistic and positive thinking. I understand the reasons for you wanting to see things turn for the better. You have many beautiful grandchildren that deserve a peaceful world to grow up in. We could all learn a lot from your outlook for the future.

Tom, this is exactly the whole point of my post. It may appear fair to Americans to give the Iranian a chance to speak his piece and to be asked to answer serious questions. It is my opinion that this opportunity would never be afforded to a high ranking official from the US if they were to visit Iran.

Something was pointed out to me this morning; the Columbia University Emblem on the podium that the Iranian spoke from was noticeably missing suggesting that University had realized their mistake and sought to minimize the propaganda effect that the Iranian would obviously exploit.

Yesterday at the UN General Assembly Nikolas Sarkosy of France brought France off of her knees after years of disgrace and dishonor and stood up to the Iranian. Just as the questions from Bollinger of Columbia were edited out of any reports to the Iranian and other Islamic oppressed people so will the words of the French President Sarkosy speaking before the UN General Assembly.

The WordSmith from Nantucket said...


Bollinger's statements are being used not to illuminate Ahmadinejad in a bad light, but in a good one. Take a look at Reuters and how he stepped into "the lion's den", and only garnered praise and prestige back in Tehran.

SusieQ said...

Wordsmith, I think his propaganda machine would have produced nearly the same results in Tehran no matter how he might have been received here.

I don't think Bollinger was trying to convince Tehran of anything. I think he was trying to expose Ahmadinejad to others in our country and the world who may not have been convinced that Ahmadinejad is that dangerous.

I am very concerned about Chavez and Ahmadinejad becoming such buddies. Chavez is talking about the two of them bringing a new order to the world and getting rid of the imperialists primarily the U.S.

Mike's America said...

Jennifer: I see you had a drive by moonbat named "dirk."

Good riddance to bad garbage!

Susie: I posted the transcript from the Columbia Universtiy site. I still remember when I was at CU in the same School of International Affairs that Invited Ahmadjihad that Columbia yanked an invite to Barnard college alum and US UN Ambassador Kirkpatrick who had been scheduled to speak.

I admire President Bollingers recent stand for free speech. But I'll be interested to see what action he takes to protect the free speech rights of American conservatives on campus.

P.S. Perhaps we should add Chavez's name to the Axis of Evil.

J_G said...

Susie, no matter what happens the propaganda will always be the same back in Tehran. Of course they're going to say their President did good even when he looks bad to everyone else. I say no more free advertising for him or nay of the other dictators like Chavez. They get plenty of free press already.

I liked when our Prez said that it was almost the end of the line for the dictator Castro in Cuba and the people of Cuba will soon be free of his brutal regime when he made his speech at the UN.

Yeah Mike you know how it is with moonbats, we're all thinking about chipping in and getting your blog a moonbat collar. dikstart has been around before I think. Just another full diaper that needs to changed.