Monday, March 10, 2008

History of Arrogance

Chuckie Schumer_Elliot Spitzer_Clinton_Andrew Cuomo

Today we have listened to the story of former Federal Prosecutor and soon to be former Governor of the State of New York Elliot Spitzer. The former Governor to be was caught up in the scandal of an international prostitution ring. Apparently the former Governor was another democrat that just can't seem to obey the same laws that everyone else is expected to obey. This is an age old tradition for arrogant and condescending politicians. "Do as I say not as I do" seems to be the order of the day when it comes to big whig democrats. The extreme arrogance of every one of the people pictured above cannot be measured.

Charles Schumer, on the far left in the picture has done everything in his power to attempt to destroy the US Constitution as far as the first and second amendment is concerned. Elliot Spitzer second from the left is going to have to resign because he can't obey even the simplest of laws and no, this isn't a private matter. Clinton has broken every campaign finance law that has ever been written and has sold the United States out to the Chinese for pennies on the dollar. Andrew Cuomo on the right side of photograph is the New York Attorney General and son of Mario Cuomo, the former three term Governor of New York. Andrew Cuomo worked extensively with former federal prosecutor Elliot Spitzer to prosecute Wall Street crooks and is so intertwined with Elliot Spitzer's political fortunes and more than likely there will be political implications for him with this current situation of Elliot Spitzer.

So all you leftists out there go ahead and attempt to circle the wagons and tell us all how this is a private matter. Keep saying it and as a matter of fact say it as loud as you can and stand up while you're saying it so we can see who you are. This story reminds of me of the Jim McGreevy story. Only a few short years ago the former New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevy had an affair with a man and he thought he could get away with it because of his position as Governor of the State of New Jersey. Former Governor McGreevy had to resign too but not before putting his family through a living hell. I have only sympathy for the families that have to deal with this mess and pick up the pieces of their lives because of these inconsiderate and arrogant men. Elliot Spitzer, Jim McGreevy and Andrew Cuomo are all of my generation and are all about the same age as I am. I'll say it again. I am ashamed of my generation and the total lack of responsibility they have shown over the years. "The Greatest Generation" has spawned the most decadent and irresponsible generation, how can that be?



I'm right there with you ...

Today, I mentioned this news byte to another individual and said, "I feel sorry for their wives and families."

"I don't," came the response. "Their wives are as perverted and corrupt as they are or they wouldn't be married to them."

I was appalled. It actually showed on my face ... I don't know ... I have to chew on that, but I doubt very much if any of us - let alone any of them - actually intend to buy into the perversion and corruption whether we're a family member or a distant viewer.

J_G said...

Thanks for stopping by aikaterine. I constantly hear that this kind of thing has been going on since the beginning of time. It has and if you examine the record closely you will see that everyone that has been caught abusing their power has suffered the consequences. I don't think the wives are perverted at all. If you look at McGreevy wife she knew nothing about his being gay until after the story broke. She went before the cameras but she has made that man pay for putting her through such a thing. It has become so bitter between the two that a judge has called a truce until things settle down.

I suspect Spitzer's wife will probably have some serious soul searching to do after this embarrassing episode. All of their lives are changed forever including the children.

I had a colleague that I knew was cheating on his wife. I told him how I felt about such things but I never told his wife because I really didn't know her at all. She eventually found out and they ended up getting divorced and I don't speak much to him anymore because I have no time for cheaters

Gayle said...

It certainly is not a private matter, Jennifer. Even if Spitzer hadn't made his career from prosecuting prostitutes, it would still be a matter of concern because he is a Governor and could very easily be blackmailed. I can not understand - even taking his arrogance into account - how he thought he could possibly get away with this. It boggles my mind! The only conclusion I can reach is that this man is not only arrogant but extremely stupid.

BB-Idaho said...

It's sort of infuriating and sad at the same time. Since it happens to Democrats and Republicans, Catholic priests and
Evangelical leaders since time
immemorial (recall King David, back when writing was being invented?) (Thomas Jefferson and his slave maid?) it must be in our nature. What is disgusting, though, Spitzer and his ilk, mentioned above, were ostensibly moral leaders and therein lies
hypocracy. Yuk.

The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

Amazing how anyone in public life, who have so much going for them in terms of wealth, prestige, a family, will risk throwing it all away...and for what? An hour of disgusting selfish gratification?

Marie's Two Cents said...

Great Post Jenn,

No this is not a private matter when you are a Public Figure privacy goes out the window.

Like Gayle said he made a career out of going after prostitution rings, then get's caught up in one himself.

He has violated so many laws, heavens only knows when they hand down an indictment what other crap he was into.

I hope his family can recover from all this while the idiot is serving time.

J_G said...

Lets see what the fall out is going to be for the Clintons. I suspect not much but if Andrew Cuomo wants to be more than an Attoney General he had better put a lot of space between himself and Spitzer. Cuomo seems to be stagnant especially since his father is probably one of the top rated liberals in the country. Something is up there.

Name: Soapboxgod said...

Let's see here, you have Larry Craig step down because he toe tapped with an undercover cop in an airport restroom stall.

But on the other hand, you have Spitzer who actually thought he'd be able to keep his position after this?

If the guy wasn't so open minded that his brain actually fell right out of his skull, he might have had the capacity to conclude that, as soon as the story broke, he should have been out of there in a New York minute.

Great post Jen.

J_G said...

Thanks for stopping by soapbox. I'm just pretty sick and tired of arrogance of the politicians making laws for us and then paying no attention to the laws for themseslves. It's the same old "do as I say and not as I do"

concerned citizen said...

I agree with you about politicians making laws for us and then paying no attention to the laws for themselves.

Also bb-idaho's point that it's not just a liberal thing but across the board.

We are all imbued with the same human nature from the enforcers of the Law on down. IMO, no change in religion or Politics is going to fix it.

Since public figures are after all public, they should be made examples when it comes to the Laws they so arbitrarily want to foist on us.
(Having your embarrassing human weakness posted all over TV & internet is a good start.)

the Pew report titled One in a hundred behind Bars in 2008 does not give a statistic for how many of the incarcerated are politicians. I'd guess they aren't sufficiently represented.

The truth is the Lawmakers are generally above the Law. It's always been that way.

NurseWilliam said...

Hello, Jennifer. It's been a while.

In considering the other half of the duo caught in flagrante delecto, I find it supremely sad that Ashley Dupre can become a millionairess in a matter of hours from downloads of her songs.

Sure the ex-Gov got nailed. But the whore got rich. Ain't America great?

Love ya, kiddo. Keep up the great work!

Phillip said...

bb-idaho: thanks for your perspective that these human foibles are certainly not the exclusive province of any one party. Much needed perspective, thanks.

soapboxgod: Larry Craig did not step down after his incident, he is, I believe, still serving his Senate term.

wordsmith: I think it really boils down to somebody believing themselves to be so invincible that they would never be caught. Kind of getting a thrill from the recklessness of it all, living on the edge.

Hi Jennifer, happy St. Patrick's Day to a political opponent with the best musical taste I know!

J_G said...

Dian, there wasn't a single word in that report about the key issue that causes crime. Single parent households. That report is pure statistics without dealing with the root causes. Sorry I have no sympathy for criminals they have turned our cities into drug infested shooting galleries and the politicians want to take away my rights to defend myself from these criminals. I think building more prisons and getting tougher on criminal is a good start but we need to stop coddling criminals. I think they should reduce the three strikes law to two strikes for violent offenders and enforce death penalty cases quickly and efficiently.

Hey, Nurse William. Long time no see. Nice to hear from you. Hope everything is going well with you. I've cut back the time I spend blogging and use the time to better my real life. I'll stop over this week and drop you a line.

Phillip, Happy St Pattie's day to you and all my readers and friends too. This Irish Lass won't be imbibing this year. My license to consume Jameson expired years ago. Maybe I'll have some Irish Breakfast tea and some Irish Potatoes instead to celebrate. I'm American of Irish decent all year long though. I represent the White Stripe on the Irish Flag. The Orange for the Protestant and Green for the Catholic. Mom was Irish Protestant, Dad was Irish Catholic. Family get togethers when I was very young was like living in Belfast. Have a sip of some Jameson's or Old Bushmill's in remembrance of me on St Patrick's Day. Please, no green beer, any Irish worth their salt wouldn't touch that stuff. Have a nice Guinness instead.

concerned citizen said...

Single parent households is the key issue that causes crime?
Come on Jennifer, think about what you just said.
Thankfully, the PEW report does deal in statistics & not emotional retorts with no basis in logic or reason.

Mike's America said...

Jennifer: Have you thought about temporarily re-registering as a Democrat so you can give Obama the shaft in the April 22 primary?

J_G said...

Sorry to tell you the facts Dian, when there is no Father figure in the household it has been the biggest link to crime than any other contributing factor.

No Mike, I would never register as a democrat for any reason. I know about "operation chaos" but I can't bring myself to vote for a democrat.I might change my party affiliation if the republicans come up with another loser like McCain though I'm out of the Presidential race this time.

J_G said...

Cato Institute

Hoover Institute Report Those are just two major oraganization reports researched in less than five minutes and that's just the beginning Dian. Single parent households are the number one contributing factor of crime. There is no argument among those elected and/or paid to deal with criminality.

See Dian, you live in a little area of Oregon that has a major crime maybe once or twice a year. You complain about the Police but without the Police in Philadelphia or New York or Washington DC it would be an unbearable place to live.

The Police need to be held responsible when they do wrong but not like you are takling about. You have a beef with your local Police but they are Barney Fife's compared to what our State and City Police are trained to deal with. I have nothing but respect for those that would put on a uniform to protect and serve.

I am a law abiding citizen as are most of my friends and I find that the people that have the loudest beef with the police have contempt for any kind of authority. Knowing a little of your background I can understand some of your contempt for authority. That's why it is good that you can complain about your Barney Fife cops, it keeps them on their toes and it's good for you. It gives you an outlet, I understand and I have no beef with that.

When it comes to big city crime problems though it is a whole different affair. You've been to Los Angeles, I saw the pictures. There are neighborhoods there that if you entered them you would never return. Try putting on the uniform of a Police officer that enters those battlefields everyday for a living and then tell me how bad the cops are. They barely keep civilization alive in those places.

concerned citizen said...

Thanks for the links Jennifer. I would like to read those reports before I respond.

As far as understanding my motives & the purpose of forming the group, Concerned Citizens of Coquille, I find your comments not only condescending but also ill-informed.

Jennifer, it appears you like some of our detractors mistakenly think CCC is a joke to be easily dismissed.

you have said:
That's why it is good that you can complain about your Barney Fife cops, it keeps them on their toes and it's good for you. It gives you an outlet, I understand and I have no beef with that.

In my own defense & In defense of my passion & principles, allow me to explain myself.

The condenscending part is no biggy but I must take issue with your overall assumption that my problem is one of contempt for authority.
You have also said:"I am a law abiding citizen as are most of my friends and I find that the people that have the loudest beef with the police have contempt for any kind of authority. Knowing a little of your background I can understand some of your contempt for authority."

First I want to remind you that I too am a law abiding citizen. Secondly, I will tell you, your erroneous assumptions about me & the group are common. I find myself answering them so often that I have posted about those very same erroneous assumptions

Just because CCC supports the civil rights & the human dignity of people who commit crimes, we do not excuse criminal behavior. We do not feel it is excusing criminal behavior to consider a penalty to harsh or a law unjust.

Just because CCC might be critical & want an account of local police practices or call for an account of an individual officers conduct does NOT mean we hate the Police, individual officers, or do not believe in law enforcement. We recognize that controlling crime is vital to the community. Our concern is that the extraordinary powers of the police are not abused.

I realize Coquille is not Los Angles. I have never tried to compare Coquille to Los Angles. But the truth is, the potential for abuse of power is everywhere.
All Police are endued with extraordinary powers under the Law & power must always be held in check. Even "Barney Fife" is not immune from abusing his power. We CAN make changes for the better within our sphere of influence.

I am currently reading "The Law" by (1849)Frédéric Bastiat. Although, I don't agree with everything he is saying, he does have some important points to remember about the concept & function of the Law:

From chap. 28--" We must remember that law is force, and that, consequently, the proper functions of the law cannot lawfully extend beyond the proper functions of force. When law and force keep a person within the bounds of justice, they impose nothing but a mere negation. They oblige him only to abstain from harming others. They violate neither his personality, his liberty, nor his property. They safeguard all of these. They are defensive; they defend equally the rights of all."

This excerpt from chapter 9 illustrates the need for the Law to be "Respectable" & also the need to view the Law with a critical eye.

From chap. 9--- "No society can exist unless the laws are respected to a certain degree. The safest way to make laws respected is to make them respectable. When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law. These two evils are of equal consequence, and it would be difficult for a person to choose between them. The nature of law is to maintain justice. This is so much the case that, in the minds of the people, law and justice are one and the same thing. There is in all of us a strong disposition to believe that anything lawful is also legitimate. This belief is so widespread that many persons have erroneously held that things are "just" because law makes them so."

Thanks, for giving me the floor. I really don't mind criticism or challenges to my stance on things. I appreciate it when people are direct & don't hide behind anonymity. This I can always count on with you. :) Now I'll go read those reports.

Paul F. said...

She's such an idiot that she purposely misspells Los Angeles just because it has the word "angel" in it. Why do you argue with such a close-minded twit?

handmaiden said...

It is well known that people who resort to name-calling & pointing out spelling mistakes have no valid arguments.

patterns of ink said...

Wow! Powerful observations. I was listening to Schumer this week and the tone of his voice, the cock of his head, etc. illustrates what you're saying.
I know we've had good reason to be "luke warm" (if that) with the choices this year, but the more we get to watch the true colors of the Democrats coming out as Hillary's run ends not with a bang but a whimper... the more I think a Republican will be in the White House in 2009.

On a lighter note:
Happy Easter!

DD2 aka Debonair Dude said...

But, but...but it was only sex!

J_G said...

Darn it, blogger did it to me again. I responded to your comments Dian and blogger ate the comment again. I'm getting pretty fed up with that.

Anyway, the jist of my comment was; I wasn't trying to be condecending Dian. I just see that your group keeps your local Police on their toes now because they know they are being reported on. That's not a bad thing. Local Police have a tendency to be severly under trained and hampered by budget constraints of a small community.

Paul, I don't know what your comment is all about. Are you two still fighting or have an argument over L>T's? Heehee, you guys crack me up.

Tom, all of this year's candidates are very weak. Now I know how the guy felt that coined the phrase "pick your poison".

dd2, nice fedora

Everyone, have a Happy Easter

DD2 aka Debonair Dude said...

What a Motley assembly of characters.

Paul F. said...

Who's that? I have no quarrel wit dem folks. I'm just passing through and couldn't resist. Sorry HM and JG.